love
This commit is contained in:
@ -83,3 +83,8 @@
|
|||||||
:type: page
|
:type: page
|
||||||
:updated_by: maijanposteja@gmail.com
|
:updated_by: maijanposteja@gmail.com
|
||||||
:id: 17
|
:id: 17
|
||||||
|
- :name: conscious_love
|
||||||
|
:updated_at: 2023-05-27 21:31:10.193416008 +03:00
|
||||||
|
:type: page
|
||||||
|
:updated_by: torsten@villataika.fi
|
||||||
|
:id: 18
|
||||||
|
@ -1558,3 +1558,103 @@
|
|||||||
subheader: ''
|
subheader: ''
|
||||||
text_color: solid_black
|
text_color: solid_black
|
||||||
text_align: left
|
text_align: left
|
||||||
|
- :template: section_text
|
||||||
|
:index: 1
|
||||||
|
:page_id: 18
|
||||||
|
:updated_at: 2023-05-27 21:34:48.828568898 +03:00
|
||||||
|
:updated_by: torsten@villataika.fi
|
||||||
|
:id: 82
|
||||||
|
:card_template: ''
|
||||||
|
:options:
|
||||||
|
text_columns: '3'
|
||||||
|
background: white
|
||||||
|
text_color: solid_black
|
||||||
|
margin: none
|
||||||
|
subheader: ''
|
||||||
|
text_align: left
|
||||||
|
button_link: ''
|
||||||
|
button_text: ''
|
||||||
|
:header: Partnership for consciousness
|
||||||
|
:text: "In a sentence we might say at Hub Feenix that living is about learning,
|
||||||
|
growing in intelligence and conciousness. Love partnership follows the same reasoning,
|
||||||
|
in that it’s highest purpose is to increase conciousness in both partners. Love
|
||||||
|
brings two people together, touching places in both that are usually hidden behind
|
||||||
|
the persona that we create to interact in the world. Being touched is most beautiful,
|
||||||
|
but also brings issues, old pains, traumas and the like. Only a honest, committed
|
||||||
|
love has the power to break through the old pains.\r\n\r\nWe believe that sexuality,
|
||||||
|
as the most intimate of human contacts, is best practised in such a committed
|
||||||
|
relationship, which creates the space for dealing with the consequences.\r\n\r\n###Traditional
|
||||||
|
marriage###\r\n\r\nThe view outlined above can be seen as quite different from
|
||||||
|
traditional marriages, which have evolved out of a sort of inter-community/family
|
||||||
|
business deal to benefit the then small communities. Before the romantics, love
|
||||||
|
did not play into the issue, and the participants were held together by strong
|
||||||
|
social pressures. After romantic love became more prominent, the social pressures
|
||||||
|
were still at work and many people understandably ended up quite unhappy because,
|
||||||
|
because no-one as we might put it, had a clue as to what they were doing at any
|
||||||
|
deeper level.\r\n\r\n###Change is needed###\r\n\r\nTo be clear, we do understand
|
||||||
|
that most people are still in this situation, of starting relationships purely
|
||||||
|
based on feelings and then not knowing what to do when it inevitably gets difficult.
|
||||||
|
In our view this is the reason why experiments with different forms of relationships
|
||||||
|
are more and more taking place, and free sexuality or polygamy are the most popular
|
||||||
|
at the moment (see link below).\r\nWe acknowledge that the old ways do not work
|
||||||
|
any more, and change is needed both at the personal and societal level. But for
|
||||||
|
us the best way is the one outlined above, not free sexuality, and we will detail
|
||||||
|
below why.\r\n\r\n###Open partnership done right still falls short###\r\n\r\nOne
|
||||||
|
of the highest values of Hub Feenix is non-violence, or consent, and so when more
|
||||||
|
than two people enter into consensual relationship (with open cards as it were),
|
||||||
|
we do not have a problem with that. For us this would include detailed communication
|
||||||
|
about the base agreements of interaction with the people, talking before acting
|
||||||
|
out eg, and keeping a high level of trust, as eg Tamera advocates.\r\n\r\nIn this
|
||||||
|
way open relationships may be lived while causing the least amount of unnecessary
|
||||||
|
pain, but in our opinion, the benefits of love are mostly lost. This is because
|
||||||
|
the love is shared, or diluted one may say, and the motivation to work through
|
||||||
|
issues is not nearly as strong. After all the whole motivation for more partners
|
||||||
|
is to pick and choose, finding solutions to problems with other people, rather
|
||||||
|
than between the two people that have the problem.\r\n\r\n###Open sexualities
|
||||||
|
achilles heel###\r\n\r\nWhen people (like Dieter Duhm, below) talk about the reason
|
||||||
|
why open sexuality is the solution to the problem, there is often a fair amount
|
||||||
|
of good sounding words being used (trust, openess, communication etc). But the
|
||||||
|
actual problem is rarely hit on the head, only alluded to. The main problem can
|
||||||
|
usually be seen when a man want to have more sex, usually with an attractive woman.
|
||||||
|
Phrases like “couragous excursion” already frame the breach in a positive light.
|
||||||
|
The main problem we find, is the breach of trust, as opposed to working through
|
||||||
|
the problem. If partners are not having enough intimacy (sexual or otherwise),
|
||||||
|
this is something that we feel should be resolved by communication.\r\n\r\nIf
|
||||||
|
on the other hand communication is not working, the breach of trust is often performed
|
||||||
|
as an unconscious exit strategy (unconscious of the deeper issue, not the sexual
|
||||||
|
drive off course). Once trust has been breached, we do not know that it can be
|
||||||
|
restored, mainly because the lack of communication is what led to the breach.\r\n\r\nOff
|
||||||
|
course this is for the case when the open partnership has not been agreed upon
|
||||||
|
beforehand. If it has, the other shortcomings described above come into play.
|
||||||
|
Not distinguishing between the cases of agreed and not agreed openness is a major
|
||||||
|
source of confusion in the communication about open sexuality.\r\n\r\n###Societal
|
||||||
|
healing###\r\n\r\nAs Tamera and others have rightly pointed out, many of the current
|
||||||
|
societal problems can be traced back to the relationship between the sexes, love
|
||||||
|
and partnership. And to be more precise, to the forceful, violent, exploitative
|
||||||
|
and generally unequal way men have treated women especially in the west.\r\n\r\nPeace
|
||||||
|
can really only be when we have peace between the sexes, between man and woman.
|
||||||
|
This off course starts in partnerships, and to heal those partnerships, men must
|
||||||
|
make amends. It is not enough to have equal partnerships now, men must consciously
|
||||||
|
make up or the thousands of years of mistreatment and can only stop when women,
|
||||||
|
both personally and generally, say it’s ok.\r\n\r\nWhile this may sound abstract,
|
||||||
|
it has quite concrete ramifications. Much of men’s mistreatments stems quite simply
|
||||||
|
from sexual frustration, not getting enough. And so the solution is also quite
|
||||||
|
simple, men must deny any expression of said frustration. Maybe more radically,
|
||||||
|
men must give up on the idea of having a right not to be. Love and intimacy can
|
||||||
|
after all only be given, not taken. \r\n\r\nOnly in this way can the cycle of
|
||||||
|
karma be broken and love be restored. \r\n\r\nOpen partnerships on the other hand
|
||||||
|
look like a more sophisticated way for men to argue that they need to get more
|
||||||
|
sex. Many women we have spoken to still feel coerced, driven by fear of loss,
|
||||||
|
which was supposed to be a thing of the past in this model. And many women also
|
||||||
|
feel tired after some years, unsupported, as real commitment is lacking.\r\n\r\nTrue
|
||||||
|
love heals, and loved women love intimacy. Men must be patient, participate in
|
||||||
|
the healing process, not force anything. Not necessarily ask for personal forgiveness
|
||||||
|
but be aware of the history that theirs fathers have participated in. \r\n\r\n###Conclusion###\r\n\r\nAt
|
||||||
|
Hub Feenix we agree with Tamera, that “we are working on a project where both
|
||||||
|
genders can liberate themselves from the horror of the past forever”. Also that
|
||||||
|
trust and communication is essential in all relationships.\r\n\r\nConversely we
|
||||||
|
believe that selfishness (the “i want ..” impulse) hides most effectively in sexual
|
||||||
|
desire, and open partnerships, and more so polygamy, is the latest sophistication
|
||||||
|
in which self is hiding.\r\n\r\nIn contrast we believe the highest joy and fulfilment
|
||||||
|
in partnership comes out of total honesty and commitment to the higher goal of
|
||||||
|
growing in conciousness. \r\n\r\n\r\nReference by Dieter Duhm on behalf of Tamera:\r\nhttps://www.tamera.org/article-free-sexuality-and-partnership-complementary-not-contradictory/\r\n"
|
||||||
|
Reference in New Issue
Block a user