From 98911f147a1762d0282aed4215dc8f6de2c25896 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Hub Feenix Member Date: Sat, 27 May 2023 21:35:53 +0300 Subject: [PATCH] love --- merged/pages.yml | 5 +++ merged/sections.yml | 100 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 2 files changed, 105 insertions(+) diff --git a/merged/pages.yml b/merged/pages.yml index ad2bef7..bb4d317 100644 --- a/merged/pages.yml +++ b/merged/pages.yml @@ -83,3 +83,8 @@ :type: page :updated_by: maijanposteja@gmail.com :id: 17 +- :name: conscious_love + :updated_at: 2023-05-27 21:31:10.193416008 +03:00 + :type: page + :updated_by: torsten@villataika.fi + :id: 18 diff --git a/merged/sections.yml b/merged/sections.yml index a0c71e2..b840207 100644 --- a/merged/sections.yml +++ b/merged/sections.yml @@ -1558,3 +1558,103 @@ subheader: '' text_color: solid_black text_align: left +- :template: section_text + :index: 1 + :page_id: 18 + :updated_at: 2023-05-27 21:34:48.828568898 +03:00 + :updated_by: torsten@villataika.fi + :id: 82 + :card_template: '' + :options: + text_columns: '3' + background: white + text_color: solid_black + margin: none + subheader: '' + text_align: left + button_link: '' + button_text: '' + :header: Partnership for consciousness + :text: "In a sentence we might say at Hub Feenix that living is about learning, + growing in intelligence and conciousness. Love partnership follows the same reasoning, + in that it’s highest purpose is to increase conciousness in both partners. Love + brings two people together, touching places in both that are usually hidden behind + the persona that we create to interact in the world. Being touched is most beautiful, + but also brings issues, old pains, traumas and the like. Only a honest, committed + love has the power to break through the old pains.\r\n\r\nWe believe that sexuality, + as the most intimate of human contacts, is best practised in such a committed + relationship, which creates the space for dealing with the consequences.\r\n\r\n###Traditional + marriage###\r\n\r\nThe view outlined above can be seen as quite different from + traditional marriages, which have evolved out of a sort of inter-community/family + business deal to benefit the then small communities. Before the romantics, love + did not play into the issue, and the participants were held together by strong + social pressures. After romantic love became more prominent, the social pressures + were still at work and many people understandably ended up quite unhappy because, + because no-one as we might put it, had a clue as to what they were doing at any + deeper level.\r\n\r\n###Change is needed###\r\n\r\nTo be clear, we do understand + that most people are still in this situation, of starting relationships purely + based on feelings and then not knowing what to do when it inevitably gets difficult. + In our view this is the reason why experiments with different forms of relationships + are more and more taking place, and free sexuality or polygamy are the most popular + at the moment (see link below).\r\nWe acknowledge that the old ways do not work + any more, and change is needed both at the personal and societal level. But for + us the best way is the one outlined above, not free sexuality, and we will detail + below why.\r\n\r\n###Open partnership done right still falls short###\r\n\r\nOne + of the highest values of Hub Feenix is non-violence, or consent, and so when more + than two people enter into consensual relationship (with open cards as it were), + we do not have a problem with that. For us this would include detailed communication + about the base agreements of interaction with the people, talking before acting + out eg, and keeping a high level of trust, as eg Tamera advocates.\r\n\r\nIn this + way open relationships may be lived while causing the least amount of unnecessary + pain, but in our opinion, the benefits of love are mostly lost. This is because + the love is shared, or diluted one may say, and the motivation to work through + issues is not nearly as strong. After all the whole motivation for more partners + is to pick and choose, finding solutions to problems with other people, rather + than between the two people that have the problem.\r\n\r\n###Open sexualities + achilles heel###\r\n\r\nWhen people (like Dieter Duhm, below) talk about the reason + why open sexuality is the solution to the problem, there is often a fair amount + of good sounding words being used (trust, openess, communication etc). But the + actual problem is rarely hit on the head, only alluded to. The main problem can + usually be seen when a man want to have more sex, usually with an attractive woman. + Phrases like “couragous excursion” already frame the breach in a positive light. + The main problem we find, is the breach of trust, as opposed to working through + the problem. If partners are not having enough intimacy (sexual or otherwise), + this is something that we feel should be resolved by communication.\r\n\r\nIf + on the other hand communication is not working, the breach of trust is often performed + as an unconscious exit strategy (unconscious of the deeper issue, not the sexual + drive off course). Once trust has been breached, we do not know that it can be + restored, mainly because the lack of communication is what led to the breach.\r\n\r\nOff + course this is for the case when the open partnership has not been agreed upon + beforehand. If it has, the other shortcomings described above come into play. + Not distinguishing between the cases of agreed and not agreed openness is a major + source of confusion in the communication about open sexuality.\r\n\r\n###Societal + healing###\r\n\r\nAs Tamera and others have rightly pointed out, many of the current + societal problems can be traced back to the relationship between the sexes, love + and partnership. And to be more precise, to the forceful, violent, exploitative + and generally unequal way men have treated women especially in the west.\r\n\r\nPeace + can really only be when we have peace between the sexes, between man and woman. + This off course starts in partnerships, and to heal those partnerships, men must + make amends. It is not enough to have equal partnerships now, men must consciously + make up or the thousands of years of mistreatment and can only stop when women, + both personally and generally, say it’s ok.\r\n\r\nWhile this may sound abstract, + it has quite concrete ramifications. Much of men’s mistreatments stems quite simply + from sexual frustration, not getting enough. And so the solution is also quite + simple, men must deny any expression of said frustration. Maybe more radically, + men must give up on the idea of having a right not to be. Love and intimacy can + after all only be given, not taken. \r\n\r\nOnly in this way can the cycle of + karma be broken and love be restored. \r\n\r\nOpen partnerships on the other hand + look like a more sophisticated way for men to argue that they need to get more + sex. Many women we have spoken to still feel coerced, driven by fear of loss, + which was supposed to be a thing of the past in this model. And many women also + feel tired after some years, unsupported, as real commitment is lacking.\r\n\r\nTrue + love heals, and loved women love intimacy. Men must be patient, participate in + the healing process, not force anything. Not necessarily ask for personal forgiveness + but be aware of the history that theirs fathers have participated in. \r\n\r\n###Conclusion###\r\n\r\nAt + Hub Feenix we agree with Tamera, that “we are working on a project where both + genders can liberate themselves from the horror of the past forever”. Also that + trust and communication is essential in all relationships.\r\n\r\nConversely we + believe that selfishness (the “i want ..” impulse) hides most effectively in sexual + desire, and open partnerships, and more so polygamy, is the latest sophistication + in which self is hiding.\r\n\r\nIn contrast we believe the highest joy and fulfilment + in partnership comes out of total honesty and commitment to the higher goal of + growing in conciousness. \r\n\r\n\r\nReference by Dieter Duhm on behalf of Tamera:\r\nhttps://www.tamera.org/article-free-sexuality-and-partnership-complementary-not-contradictory/\r\n"