diff --git a/forms/TreeDropdownField.php b/forms/TreeDropdownField.php
index 5fbee3e47..d3a7cbc8c 100644
--- a/forms/TreeDropdownField.php
+++ b/forms/TreeDropdownField.php
@@ -107,13 +107,6 @@ class TreeDropdownField extends FormField {
 			$this->childrenMethod = 'ChildFolders';
 			$this->numChildrenMethod = 'numChildFolders';
 		}
-		else {
-			// AllChildren should be used as a default because
-			// if you use AllChildrenIncludingDeleted instead, the filters will be much more demanding
-			// this is because instead of working with DataList you will be working with ArrayList
-			// AllChildren should be always used when dealing with more pages than the node leaf limit
-			$this->childrenMethod = 'AllChildren';
-		}
 
 		$this->addExtraClass('single');
 
@@ -310,57 +303,16 @@ class TreeDropdownField extends FormField {
 		if ($this->filterCallback || $this->search != "" )
 			$obj->setMarkingFilterFunction(array($this, "filterMarking"));
 
-		// prepare a filter by ids, this is very useful when we have thousands of child pages under common parent
-		$filteredIds = ($this->search != '' && !is_null($this->searchIds) && is_array($this->searchIds))
-			? array_keys($this->searchIds) : array();
-
-		// collect IDs of currently selected pages (this includes hierarchy path)
-		$forceValue = $request->requestVar('forceValue');
-		if (!is_null($forceValue) || $this->value) {
-			$fieldValue = (!is_null($forceValue) ? $forceValue : $this->value);
-
-			if (($values = preg_split('/,\s*/', $fieldValue)) && count($values)) {
-				foreach ($values as $value) {
-					if (!$value || $value == 'unchanged') {
-						continue;
-					}
-
-					$selectedObject = $this->objectForKey($value);
-
-					// add all pages along the hierarchy path
-					$stack = $selectedObject->parentStack();
-					foreach ($stack as $stackItem) {
-						$filteredIds[] = $stackItem->ID;
-					}
-				}
-			}
-		}
-
-		// main node leaf limit configuration
-		$nodeCountThreshold = 30;
-		$obj->markPartialTree(
-			$nodeCountThreshold, $context = null,
-			$this->childrenMethod, $this->numChildrenMethod, $filteredIds
-		);
+		$obj->markPartialTree($nodeCountThreshold = 30, $context = null,
+			$this->childrenMethod, $this->numChildrenMethod);
 
 		// allow to pass values to be selected within the ajax request
-		if (!is_null($forceValue) || $this->value) {
-			$fieldValue = (!is_null($forceValue) ? $forceValue : $this->value);
+		if( isset($_REQUEST['forceValue']) || $this->value ) {
+			$forceValue = ( isset($_REQUEST['forceValue']) ? $_REQUEST['forceValue'] : $this->value);
+			if(($values = preg_split('/,\s*/', $forceValue)) && count($values)) foreach($values as $value) {
+				if(!$value || $value == 'unchanged') continue;
 
-			if (($values = preg_split('/,\s*/', $fieldValue)) && count($values)) {
-				foreach ($values as $value) {
-					if (!$value || $value == 'unchanged') {
-						continue;
-					}
-
-					$obj->markToExpose(
-						$this->objectForKey($value),
-						$this->childrenMethod,
-						$this->numChildrenMethod,
-						$nodeCountThreshold,
-						$filteredIds
-					);
-				}
+				$obj->markToExpose($this->objectForKey($value));
 			}
 		}
 
@@ -385,7 +337,7 @@ class TreeDropdownField extends FormField {
 		// Skip the check if we're filtering the tree, since its not clear how many children will
 		// match the filter criteria until they're queried (and matched up with previously marked nodes).
 		$nodeThresholdLeaf = Config::inst()->get('Hierarchy', 'node_threshold_leaf');
-		if($nodeThresholdLeaf && !$this->filterCallback && !$this->search && count($filteredIds) == 0) {
+		if($nodeThresholdLeaf && !$this->filterCallback && !$this->search) {
 			$className = $this->sourceObject;
 			$nodeCountCallback = function($parent, $numChildren) use($className, $nodeThresholdLeaf) {
 				if($className == 'SiteTree' && $parent->ID && $numChildren > $nodeThresholdLeaf) {
@@ -409,8 +361,7 @@ class TreeDropdownField extends FormField {
 				$this->numChildrenMethod,
 				true, // root call
 				null,
-				$nodeCountCallback,
-                $filteredIds
+				$nodeCountCallback
 			);
 			return substr(trim($html), 4, -5);
 		} else {
@@ -423,8 +374,7 @@ class TreeDropdownField extends FormField {
 				$this->numChildrenMethod,
 				true, // root call
 				null,
-				$nodeCountCallback,
-                $filteredIds
+				$nodeCountCallback
 			);
 			return $html;
 		}
diff --git a/model/Hierarchy.php b/model/Hierarchy.php
index b853f473e..c42b94be5 100644
--- a/model/Hierarchy.php
+++ b/model/Hierarchy.php
@@ -118,7 +118,6 @@ class Hierarchy extends DataExtension {
 	 *                                            overload this function
 	 * @param bool            $limitToMarked      Display only marked children
 	 * @param string          $childrenMethod     The name of the method used to get children from each object
-	 * @param string          $numChildrenMethod The name of the instance method to call to count the object's children
 	 * @param bool            $rootCall           Set to true for this first call, and then to false for calls inside
 	 *                                            the recursion. You should not change this.
 	 * @param int             $nodeCountThreshold See {@link self::$node_threshold_total}
@@ -126,14 +125,12 @@ class Hierarchy extends DataExtension {
 	 *                                            intercept the query. Useful e.g. to avoid excessive children listings
 	 *                                            (Arguments: $parent, $numChildren)
 	 *
-	 * @param array $filteredIds list of ids that will be used to filter list items (reduce the result set before processing)
-	 *
 	 * @return string
 	 */
 	public function getChildrenAsUL($attributes = "", $titleEval = '"<li>" . $child->Title', $extraArg = null,
 			$limitToMarked = false, $childrenMethod = "AllChildrenIncludingDeleted",
 			$numChildrenMethod = "numChildren", $rootCall = true,
-			$nodeCountThreshold = null, $nodeCountCallback = null, array $filteredIds = array()) {
+			$nodeCountThreshold = null, $nodeCountCallback = null) {
 
 		if(!is_numeric($nodeCountThreshold)) {
 			$nodeCountThreshold = Config::inst()->get('Hierarchy', 'node_threshold_total');
@@ -152,18 +149,6 @@ class Hierarchy extends DataExtension {
 
 		if($this->owner->hasMethod($childrenMethod)) {
 			$children = $this->owner->$childrenMethod($extraArg);
-
-			// apply filter before any further processing to limit excessive amount of items
-			// filter is applied only after limit has been reached
-			if (count($filteredIds) > 0 && $nodeCountThreshold && $children->count() > $nodeCountThreshold) {
-				$children = $children->filter(array('ID' => $filteredIds));
-			}
-
-			// too many children, display nothing
-			if ($nodeCountThreshold && $children->count() > $nodeCountThreshold) {
-				$children = null;
-			}
-
 		} else {
 			user_error(sprintf("Can't find the method '%s' on class '%s' for getting tree children",
 				$childrenMethod, get_class($this->owner)), E_USER_ERROR);
@@ -203,7 +188,7 @@ class Hierarchy extends DataExtension {
 							$child->markClosed();
 						} else {
 							$output .= $child->getChildrenAsUL("", $titleEval, $extraArg, $limitToMarked,
-								$childrenMethod,	$numChildrenMethod, false, $nodeCountThreshold, null, $filteredIds);
+								$childrenMethod,	$numChildrenMethod, false, $nodeCountThreshold);
 						}
 					} elseif($child->isTreeOpened()) {
 						// Since we're not loading children, don't mark it as open either
@@ -231,14 +216,10 @@ class Hierarchy extends DataExtension {
 	 * {@link isExpanded()} and {@link isMarked()} on individual nodes.
 	 *
 	 * @param int $nodeCountThreshold See {@link getChildrenAsUL()}
-	 * @param mixed $context
-	 * @param string $childrenMethod The name of the instance method to call to get the object's list of children
-	 * @param string $numChildrenMethod The name of the instance method to call to count the object's children
-	 * @param array $filteredIds list of ids that will be used to filter list items (reduce the result set before processing)
 	 * @return int The actual number of nodes marked.
 	 */
 	public function markPartialTree($nodeCountThreshold = 30, $context = null,
-			$childrenMethod = "AllChildrenIncludingDeleted", $numChildrenMethod = "numChildren", array $filteredIds = array()) {
+			$childrenMethod = "AllChildrenIncludingDeleted", $numChildrenMethod = "numChildren") {
 
 		if(!is_numeric($nodeCountThreshold)) $nodeCountThreshold = 30;
 
@@ -247,19 +228,7 @@ class Hierarchy extends DataExtension {
 
 		// foreach can't handle an ever-growing $nodes list
 		while(list($id, $node) = each($this->markedNodes)) {
-			// first determine the number of children, if it's too high the tree view can't be used
-			// so will will not even bother to display the subtree
-			// this covers two cases:
-			// either no search filter is in use or search filter is in use but it's too broad
-			$numberOfChildren = $node->$numChildrenMethod();
-			if ($nodeCountThreshold && $numberOfChildren > $nodeCountThreshold
-				&& (count($filteredIds) == 0 || count($filteredIds) > $nodeCountThreshold)) {
-				break;
-			}
-
-			$children = $this->markChildren(
-			    $node, $context, $childrenMethod, $numChildrenMethod, $nodeCountThreshold, $filteredIds
-			);
+			$children = $this->markChildren($node, $context, $childrenMethod, $numChildrenMethod);
 			if($nodeCountThreshold && sizeof($this->markedNodes) > $nodeCountThreshold) {
 				// Undo marking children as opened since they're lazy loaded
 				if($children) foreach($children as $child) $child->markClosed();
@@ -330,20 +299,12 @@ class Hierarchy extends DataExtension {
 	 * @param mixed      $context
 	 * @param string     $childrenMethod    The name of the instance method to call to get the object's list of children
 	 * @param string     $numChildrenMethod The name of the instance method to call to count the object's children
-	 * @param int        $nodeCountThreshold
-	 * @param array      $filteredIds list of ids that will be used to filter list items (reduce the result set before processing)
 	 * @return DataList
 	 */
 	public function markChildren($node, $context = null, $childrenMethod = "AllChildrenIncludingDeleted",
-			$numChildrenMethod = "numChildren", $nodeCountThreshold = null, array $filteredIds = array()) {
-
+			$numChildrenMethod = "numChildren") {
 		if($node->hasMethod($childrenMethod)) {
 			$children = $node->$childrenMethod($context);
-
-			// apply filter before any further processing
-			if (count($filteredIds) > 0 && $nodeCountThreshold && $children->count() > $nodeCountThreshold) {
-				$children = $children->filter(array('ID' => $filteredIds));
-			}
 		} else {
 			user_error(sprintf("Can't find the method '%s' on class '%s' for getting tree children",
 				$childrenMethod, get_class($node)), E_USER_ERROR);
@@ -414,18 +375,11 @@ class Hierarchy extends DataExtension {
 	 *
 	 * @param int  $id   ID of parent node
 	 * @param bool $open If this is true, mark the parent node as opened
-	 * @param string $childrenMethod The name of the instance method to call to get the object's list of children
-	 * @param string $numChildrenMethod The name of the instance method to call to count the object's children
-	 * @param int $nodeCountThreshold
-	 * @param array $filteredIds list of ids that will be used to filter list items (reduce the result set before processing)
 	 * @return bool
 	 */
-	public function markById($id, $open = false, $childrenMethod = "AllChildrenIncludingDeleted",
-							$numChildrenMethod = "numChildren", $nodeCountThreshold = null, array $filteredIds = array()) {
+	public function markById($id, $open = false) {
 		if(isset($this->markedNodes[$id])) {
-			$this->markChildren(
-				$this->markedNodes[$id], null, $childrenMethod, $numChildrenMethod, $nodeCountThreshold, $filteredIds
-			);
+			$this->markChildren($this->markedNodes[$id]);
 			if($open) {
 				$this->markedNodes[$id]->markOpened();
 			}
@@ -439,19 +393,12 @@ class Hierarchy extends DataExtension {
 	 * Expose the given object in the tree, by marking this page and all it ancestors.
 	 *
 	 * @param DataObject $childObj
-	 * @param string $childrenMethod The name of the instance method to call to get the object's list of children
-	 * @param string $numChildrenMethod The name of the instance method to call to count the object's children
-	 * @param int $nodeCountThreshold
-	 * @param array $filteredIds list of ids that will be used to filter list items (reduce the result set before processing)
 	 */
-	public function markToExpose($childObj, $childrenMethod = "AllChildrenIncludingDeleted",
-								$numChildrenMethod = "numChildren", $nodeCountThreshold = null, array $filteredIds = array()) {
+	public function markToExpose($childObj) {
 		if(is_object($childObj)){
 			$stack = array_reverse($childObj->parentStack());
 			foreach($stack as $stackItem) {
-				$this->markById(
-					$stackItem->ID, true, $childrenMethod, $numChildrenMethod, $nodeCountThreshold, $filteredIds
-				);
+				$this->markById($stackItem->ID, true);
 			}
 		}
 	}
diff --git a/tests/model/HierarchyTest.php b/tests/model/HierarchyTest.php
index b712c5df6..cc580ec61 100644
--- a/tests/model/HierarchyTest.php
+++ b/tests/model/HierarchyTest.php
@@ -455,7 +455,7 @@ EOT;
 		$obj2aa->delete();
 		$obj2ab->delete();
 		// Don't pre-load all children
-		$nodeCountThreshold = 3;
+		$nodeCountThreshold = 1;
 
 		$childrenMethod = 'AllChildren';
 		$numChildrenMethod = 'numChildren';
@@ -500,7 +500,7 @@ EOT;
 		$obj2aa->delete();
 		$obj2ab->delete();
 		// Don't pre-load all children
-		$nodeCountThreshold = 3;
+		$nodeCountThreshold = 1;
 
 		$childrenMethod = 'AllChildrenIncludingDeleted';
 		$numChildrenMethod = 'numHistoricalChildren';